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      racj
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      Dear Matthew,

      I am currently using JAMOD on a CDC platform and would be interested in using Modbus4J, since this gives RTU slave capability.

      However, The seroUtils.jar is not JAVA 1.4 compatible, which is what I need for my CDC platform (which consequently fails when trying to link).

      Are you able to provide a version of the JAR file built using the JAVA compiler switches -source 1.4 and -target 1.4 ?

      If you are able to do this then I would look to generate a CDC compatible version of Modbus4J.

      Many thanks

      Richard

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        mlohbihler
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        Hi Richard,

        It is very likely possible to create a CDC-compatible version of seroUtils. Is this a personal project, or do you have a development budget?

        Best regards,
        Matthew

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          racj
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          Dear Matthew,

          This is a research project - so only a very limited budget.

          How long do you think it would take you ?

          Would it be possible for me to look at what is needed for a CDC compatible compile ? I do realise from the previous discussions in this thread that you have concerns about open sourcing SeroUtils - can this be handled some other way than global open source ?

          Regards

          Richard

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            mlohbihler
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            Hi Richard,

            Did you already convert Modbus4J to 1.4? I recall that for the "-source 1.4" switch to work you'd need to refactor all the generics, annotations, and auto-boxing, and possibly other stuff too.

            Best regards,
            Matthew

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              racj
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              Dear Matthew,

              I have only identified the sections that will need to be modified (as you correctly identified this is mostly generics etc), However I have not proceeded with implementing any changes, because having a usable system is dependant on having a CDC compatible version of SeroUtils.

              Do you have a feel for how much work it would be to generate the CDC compatible version of SeroUtils ?

              Regards

              Richard

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                mlohbihler
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                I could provide you with the subset of seroUtils required by Modbus4J fairly easily. Do note though that Modbus4J is GPL software. Any changes you make need to become open source, which is a consideration if your project ever becomes commercial in the future. But Serotonin can provide a more LGPL-like license in this occurrence.

                Best regards,
                Matthew

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                  racj
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                  Dear Matthew,

                  Open source is not a problem.

                  Would you provide the sub-set of SeroUtils as source for me to do the conversion or would you look to do it yourself ?

                  Regards

                  Richard

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                    mlohbihler
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                    If you're converting the Modbus4J stuff, you might as well do this too. Attached.

                    Attachment: download link

                    Best regards,
                    Matthew

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                      racj
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                      Dear Matthew,

                      Thank you for that. I will let you know how I get on.

                      Regards

                      Richard

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                        gpulido
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                        Dear Matthew,
                        I'm collaborating in a Open Source project to develop a personal home-automation framework, and we would like to use your Modbus4J library.
                        Unfortunatelly it depends of the seroUtils.jar and as our project is under the GPL license we would like to know if you can proportionate us the source code for the library.
                        Thank you in advance
                        Best regards
                        Gabriel

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                          mlohbihler
                          last edited by

                          Hi Gabriel,

                          The source in the above should be all you need. Feel free to use it.

                          Regards,
                          Matthew

                          Best regards,
                          Matthew

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                            gpulido
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                            Hello Mathew,

                            Unfortunately the link is broken can you publish it again?
                            Thank you
                            Regards,
                            Gabriel

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                              mlohbihler
                              last edited by

                              Ah, right. Lost in the move. Re-attached.

                              Attachment: download link

                              Best regards,
                              Matthew

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                                apl
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                                @mlohbihler said:

                                Modbus4J is open source, as all of the sources for Modbus4J are provided. As i said, seroUtils.jar is not open source, not for any matter of secrecy, but only because there are parts of it that users will most certainly ask about that we are not prepared to support. It is, of course, Java technology, and as such resourceful users will - i'm certain - find ways to debug their code without Serotonin having to take on supporting yet another open source project. Again, if this does not suit your sense of entitlement, you have alternatives.

                                Can I take this, that I can reengineer the needed sorces for mango M2M (1.12.4) for further development?
                                Or under which license is seroUtils.jar?

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                                  mlohbihler
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                                  Yes, you can do what you like with the sources within the constraints of the GPL license. The license for seroUtils is not defined, but it is intended to be used only as support for Mango. I would be inclined to grant its use as support for Mango derivatives under GPL as well.

                                  Best regards,
                                  Matthew

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                                    apl
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                                    So, can I

                                    get the needed sources

                                    or
                                    decompile the needed classes it for ScadaBR?

                                    and

                                    put them in a different packages?

                                    OR have a double license GPL and closed source licenses for serotonin only? (this can include any code commited to the GPL version is also in the closed source as well)?

                                    Arne

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                                      mlohbihler
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                                      For seroUtils? No. The license would be one of usage with Mango.

                                      Best regards,
                                      Matthew

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                                        apl
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                                        So for ScadaBR I will have to throw out all references to seroUtil in order to get a full Open Source?

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                                          apl
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                                          Im missing a way to JSON serialize an enum by annotation - can you provide the sources to implement this?
                                          Or should I take the approach from my last mail?

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                                            mlohbihler
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                                            So for ScadaBR I will have to throw out all references to seroUtil in order to get a full Open Source?

                                            They might do that i suppose, but rewriting all of that supporting code would be a large effort. The good news is that we just started the process of releasing seroUtils as open source. The first project is here: http://code.google.com/p/serotonin-json.

                                            Please note that this is not the version of JSON that is used in Mango, but a more advanced and streamlined version. (The API is similar in many ways, but different enough in others.)

                                            The release of other parts of seroUtils is forthcoming.

                                            Regarding serializing enums, you don't annotate them. The id of the enum is serialized as a string.

                                            Best regards,
                                            Matthew

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