Interesting Conundrum?
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Linux latest ubuntu does away with terminal access to root user in lieu of sudo user ...so is the only way to start ES mango through a reboot?
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This might help: https://help.infiniteautomation.com/installing-services/
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Sorry Joel that was not the issue. it's set up to start on boot.. Somehow a file of different ownership than mango got inserted into our graphical views and when mango attempted to delete it on startup it was crashing out on a permission error and I thought it was because the filesystem was owned by root (not mango) since root owns the init.d startup file so it was starting for root on reboot but not mango from a terminal window.. Its fixed now. thanks for the quick response.